SID: Hello, Sid Roth here with Mary Jo Pennington, affectionately called MaJo by her granddaughter. And her granddaughter should’ve died, because she was thrust backwards when MaJo fell, and she was on a sliding board and she went 9 feet down onto cement. Should’ve killed herself or injured herself seriously. But as she fell, she kind of floated down, and actually turned position in mid air. And her grandfather’s an engineer, he says there’s no way in the natural she should’ve survived. But then they found out Victoria said six big, big, big angels caught her and that’s why that happened, and she went to heaven. And since that time, she’s had many visitations to heaven, and she comes back with information that, only if she’d been to heaven could she have known. It’s just the most phenomenal thing. But I want to find out… Because she doesn’t know the word abortion, but she describes it, unfortunately, so graphically. And what do these babies that have been aborted that are in heaven think of their parents?
MARY JO: Well, I asked her that after she told me about a baby that I knew, and I couldn’t deny that that baby was there, because I’d found out about her just a couple of weeks before. And she said that she was there and that she had been squeezed out before she could live. And I said “Victoria, do the babies hold it against the mothers for giving them up?” And she said “MaJo, the mommies never give up the baby, the mommy will always love the baby, and the baby will always love the mommy.” And that was very profound, because many people think of their baby either as nonexistent or hating them or holding it against them, but the baby is taught forgiveness by Jesus. Jesus teaches them forgiveness.
SID: Now on another subject I find very intriguing was that white wedding cake. Tell me about that.
MARY JO: Yes. On her way to the throne room, Jesus took her by to see two things. He showed her a beautiful table, a big, big – she said it 18 times – big, big, big table with a big wedding cake all the way up to the sky. I believe that’s the wedding table for the marriage supper of the Lamb.
The other thing she saw, “I saw the Owner of the sky, and He has a long beard, and His beard reaches down into the churches. And oil drips down His beard into the churches.” When we questioned her about it, she said He makes provision for the churches that He loves to feed the churches. And we found out that that actually is described in Psalm 133, how pleasant it is to dwell in unity, it’s like the oil flowing down Aaron’s beard.
SID: You know, just as you’re sharing that, I literally can feel the presence of God, the oil as it’s referred to in scriptures, just flowing down me. And I can believe some of you can experience that oil flowing down you. She also said that they show some of these babies that were aborted the whole crucifixion scene. Explain that.
MARY JO: The babies are taught about Jesus before they’re ever taken to their rooms. They’re in this big, big place where there’s babies everywhere. She said they’re everywhere. And when she was 4 1/2, she said maybe 66. She felt that’s a big number for her, but there’s just millions of babies there. But the babies are shown on, like as big as the sky, but it’s like a screen, but they come out and they’re real. They’re actually taken to where Jesus was born, they see, they’re taught to worship Him by the shepherds, the shepherds actually come and worship Him. And when they do, they actually come and worship and praise Him. As the shepherds do, the babies actually learn that then. They go with Him through His life; they see the whole thing. They see Him beat, and the babies are just appalled, their little hearts are broken. They watch Him be beat and spit upon, and then they watch Him be crucified and they’re just so heartbroken and they’re crying.
And then they see Him rise from the dead and they’re cheering and praising God. These little babies are taught the plan of salvation right there before they ever go out of that instructional area where they were healed by Jesus. And they have hearing and sight and speech and they even have little teeth to eat with that is all given to them right when he makes them whole. They are made whole but they are still little…
SID: So the garbage can babies he makes whole?
MARY JO: He makes them whole, whatever was done to them, if they were torn apart, whatever, each part of their body is perfected.
SID: And they don’t hold anything against the parents?
MARY JO: They love their mother, they keep up with there mother, they keep up with there grandparents they know who there father is even if there mother doesn’t know.
SID: You know this started when Victoria was 4 and today she is 7 and we have another home video of Victoria talking about what they see, you know it is almost like you know that movie The Passion, they see something much better then the Passion let’s go to that clip right now.
MARY JO: While you were watching this when he was raised from the dead, what did they do then?
VICTORIA: They were like yelling yea, he is alive, he is alive! And they were standing up with there little feet up.
