SID: Hello, Sid Roth your investigative reporter here with Jack and Peggy Joyce Ruth. And what happened to Peggy Joyce should happen to no one. I mean they were a wonderful, happy couple, and instantly she got exposed to what she calls spiritual warfare, which she wasn’t prepared for, and she became insane. How many years?
PEGGY: Eight years.
SID: Eight years; and in desperation after eight years. Jack, you had given up. You had spent the money, the shock treatment, the psychiatry, no hope. What did you cry out in a desperate way?
PEGGY: One night I went out to the clothesline, and I was so desperate, I just said God, I don’t even know if you exist, you may not even be there. But if you are there, find me and bring me back. I’ve tried everything. I’ve gone to the library, I’ve gone through shock treatment, I had gone to pastors before I did that and they didn’t have any answers for me. And I said find me and bring me back. And I didn’t realize that God started answering that prayer. Now I can look back in retrospect and see how he did, but the very next week, things absolutely started changing in my life. And it was God. He moved on the scene when I asked him. But see, I quit searching with my mind, and I started searching with my heart.
SID: that’s a key distinction. Uh, Jack, I understand for a couple of years, you had your old wife back.
JACK: Yes.
SID: But then what happened, Peggy?
PEGGY: Well, first of all, the way God started working is Jack had to go to New Orleans and so I went with him, and on the way we stopped and this couple told us about this baptism of love. And they said where you just fall in love with the Lord and you just experience his love in just a new and wonderful way. And I remember thinking, could this work for me? And we left there and went to Conroe, and my cousin is re-married, I met his wife for the first time, I was in her house for maybe five minutes, she told me the same thing, about this wonderful experience with the Lord. And I thought I can’t believe I am hearing the same thing, you know, two times in the same day. We went to New Orleans, got there and found a Logo bookstore. I had no idea what Logo meant, you know that it meant the Word of God. I got a book, Pat Boone’s “A New Song,” and he was telling the same thing, the same experience. And before that week was over, I had cried out again, and said God, if this is real? I have heard it three times now. If this is real, I want that. And the Lord just all of a sudden, this heavenly prayer language just came flowing out, and it was the most wonderful thing. Peace just came all over me, Jack received the same…
JACK: It was heaven on earth for a while.
PEGGY: It was. Two years. And God just did a healing in our marriage.
SID: Do you know what’s going on right now? The same peace they’re talking about is coming right through your television set or your video right now. It’s that same peace. But what happened after two years?
PEGGY: After two years those old thoughts started coming back, those old feelings came back. And then I was really desperate and I said, God, for two years I have had this wonderful, intimate time with the Lord, and with my husband. What on earth is happening? And as it continued to get worse, one day God gave me a vision. I didn’t know at the time what a vision was, but I saw myself sitting in a chair and it was like a man dressed in white told me to open my mouth and I could see a black tooth. My body became transparent and I see the roots going down through my body. And then he pulled the tooth out, and then he spent a long time packing that area and I thought it had happened, I thought that meant everything was okay. And the next day, the bottom fell out again, and I forgot the vision, I forgot the two years of peace, I forgot everything, I was desperately going through the medicine cabinet just trying to find maybe an old bottle of pills from two years before, because I was desperate. So I started looking in the Bible, and I saw the scripture that said, whoever calls on the name of the Lord will be delivered. I did not know what deliverance was; I didn’t know what it meant. But I said God, whatever this means, I’m calling on you, and I’m going to be delivered. And I kept saying it over and over and over. And so in the meantime, there were some friends who went to Jack, and they told Jack they thought I had a demon.
SID: Now Jack, what did you think about your wife having a demon?
JACK: I had enough problems without hearing that! In fact, I took the cassette tape they gave me and I threw it across the table. And I said I am not going to be a demon chaser.
SID: So why did you change your mind?
JACK: Well, I didn’t. Well, supernaturally God… she’ll tell the story.
SID: Okay.
PEGGY: Well, I got worse and I got worse. And I think he got desperate. And at that point, this same couple came back and they said we have found a pastor who will pray for her. And so Jack, at this point, he was ready to do anything. And so they had us pray and fast for three days. And I remember that I didn’t expect anything to happen. But I was so desperate I would have tried anything. I was so desperate that anything they would have told me. But in my heart, there was just that little glimmer of hope that maybe this could do it. Now I know that different deliverances, somebody may have a deliverance that is quite mild, mine was very vocal, it was very dramatic.
SID: Jack, did it scare you?
JACK: Definitely. I was a white as that sheet of paper. All I could think of was, what am I going to tell my mother-in-law?
SID: But bottom line, what happened?
PEGGY: Bottom line, I was delivered, I was set free. When that demonic oppression left, it was..
SID: Instant?
PEGGY: It left instantly, but then the feelings started coming back.
SID: Oh no! Wait a second. Now she gets help, and then it comes back, she gets help, and then it comes back. How much more can she take? She got answers. You want to hear these answers. By the way, God has just healed someone that had a neck pain. If you move your head, pain is gone. And a back is healed too. Don’t go away. God is so strong. The spirit is just pouring, pouring through your set right now.