Sid: My guest Katie Sousa is going to talk about a subject that is almost ignored, or the other extreme you have to go to almost a college course to take care of it. But it’s literally causing a problem for the promises of God to be operating in your life. And everyone knows about forgiveness, and you know how that if you don’t forgive you drink the poison you want the person that wounded you to drink. So you know how to forgive, but there is something called wounding in the soul, haven’t you noticed that some people take off once they become a believer and move in all the gifts of the Spirit and the promises of God seem to be activated in working and they have dreams and visions and words of knowledge. And other people year after year after year they don’t see much of that going on, and they have problems in their life, problems in their marriage, problems in their finances, problems in their health. And it has to do with a wounding in your soul. Now Katie Sousa you have been teaching on this and the thing that amazes me about your teaching is that you keep it so simple, it’s easy enough for one, and once someone understands the principals for them to be free. Let’s start out with what is wounding of the soul, what does that mean?
Katie: Okay, that’s easy. We’re a three part being, body, soul and spirit and when we become believers our spirit man is made perfect in an instant. That doesn’t happen to our soul, our soul has to be progressively healed over time. But here unfortunately overtime there have been a progression of wounding in our souls and those wounds come from two main sources from trauma like if we have a traumatic event, a death of a love one or an accident, or something like that those events can literally wound our soul. And doctors will even tell you that if you have something happen in your soul, like if you have a traumatic event happen it can develop like into a physical sickness. But there is another thing that wounds a soul that every single person on the face of the planet has done and that is sin, sin literally wounds us in our soul man, I mean there is scripture on it in Isaiah 30 it says, “That God will bind up the hurts of His people and heal their wound inflicted by him because of their sin.”
Sid: But wait a second though, are you saying to me when someone repents of their sins and is born again and Jesus is living inside of them they still can have scars on their soul that will limit them in their walk in the supernatural?
Katie: It’s true and I’ll tell you how that works, so here we are we all go through life and we sin and according to the Bible sin creates wounds in the soul, even the Psalmist said, “Oh Lord heal my soul for I have sinned.” Indicating that the sin had wounded the soul; so we all have these wounds inside of us and we go okay “Well, we plead the blood and that takes care of everything.” Well, here’s the piece where the church has missed and this is a crucial piece of healing that we didn’t understand, we’ve all been applying the blood of Jesus on our sin and that’s exactly what the blood of Jesus does, it washes us from that sin. And we go okay we go in the closet and if we sin or do something we repent and we apply the blood and we put the cross on our sin and then we come out of the closet and we go “Amen okay I’m done.” But at the end of that prayer we’re still sick, we’re still broke; we still have relationship problems, our mind is still being controlled and all these problems are still happening in our life so what happened? I thought, didn’t we just apply the blood and isn’t the blood all powerful? Yes, it is, the blood is all powerful, but the blood had a specific job, it is for the sin. But what we didn’t understand is that sin made a wound in our soul and there is another power that comes from Jesus Christ that is specifically for the wound that sin made. And power is called dunamis; it comes to us from the resurrection of Christ. You see the church has been for centuries focused on the cross as we should, we have to have the cross, we need the cross to be reconciled unto God, to have eternal life, to be cleansed of our sin. But the thing is, we also need to be focused on the resurrection and a power called dunamis that comes from. Because see without the resurrection Jesus is still a man dead in a tomb; see He had to be raised from the dead for everything He had accomplished on the cross to become activated. So when Jesus was raised from the dead it gave us a power called dunamis. Let me talk about that. Paul said, in Philippians 3 he says, “I want to know him, meaning Christ, and the power, or dunamis, that’s what it is of His resurrection.” See through the resurrection there comes to us a power called dunamis, now the reason why it’s so important for us to start partaking of that dunamis just like we partake of the blood is because of what dunamis means. In the Greek if you look it up in the Strong’s there’s like four meanings, I’ll just tell you two. The first one is the power to perform miracles, and the second on is this, “To be excellent of soul.” You see the power, (laughing) that dunamis that comes from the resurrection is for the healing of the wounds that sin made. So when we put the blood we take care of the sin. But that sin still let the wound behind, and the Bible says, “We’ll prosper and be in health even as our soul prospers.” So when that wound is left behind it ruins out prosperity, it causes us to be sick, it affects our health.
Sid: Let me tell you something that I envision as I’m hearing you speak right now. Someone comes to the Lord, they genuinely are born again, they genuinely have an experience with the Lord. They have a soul, and I envision the soul as the heart, and if you had x-ray vision you could see scars on this heart from being a human all these years as a nonbeliever, and as a believer being undiscipled in the word of God. I see these wounds, or these scars, so if you could see someone’s soul, see their, and it looks like a heart there are scars all over, and is there a way of getting rid of these scars? That’s what’s your saying and yes I hear what you’re saying; there’s a dunamis which is a Greek word for the power of God. But how does this transaction occur, how do you get rid of the scars?
Katie: Just like people go in their closet and get on their knees and go “Oh, Jesus forgive me of my sin,” Let’s say they you know, they drank, they went out and they drank some alcohol and then they are totally convicted. So they go into their closet and they go “Oh Jesus heal me of that sin with your blood, wash me clean of that sin and right now in Your Mighty Name apply your cross to that sin in Jesus Name.” And so they apply the blood, you do the same thing, you just use the same level of faith, the same coming before the Lord and you go “Now Jesus I’m going to take a second step, I’m not going to stop at the first step, I understand that I need all of you, I need Your cross and I need Your resurrection.” And so now I’ve partaken of Your blood Lord for my sin and I know that the Bible says when I do that my sin is gone, but now I know I got to deal with the wound that sin made.
Sid: I want to get rid of those scars because those scars are short circuiting what God has for your life.
Katie: Those scars are completely controlling the church, okay. Those scars are making people talk to each other, and respond to each other in this horrible way and that’s why people can’t get along. If you’re a born again believer, two born again believers have no problem getting along in their spirit man, so what does that leave behind, it’s their soul and it’s wounds on their soul. Paul says, I do the thing I don’t want to do because the sin nature fixed and operating in my soul. He knew that it was sinning because of the junk that was in his trunk. We’re all, we’re trying, we’re trying so hard not to sin, we’re trying so hard to walk in righteousness, we’re trying so hard not to scream at our husbands, or our children, or our boss, or to go back to our old ways. But we can’t just seem to help ourselves, it’s like we’re being controlled by…
Sid: Are even Christians that become addicts like for instance the biggest addiction right now I know of right now is pornography, it’s hard to believe a Christian could be addicted to pornography, but they are. And it’s got to do with these wounds in their soul.
Katie: Yes, that’s what happened that sin of pornography literally wounds then and that wound then does what Paul says, “I do the thing that I don’t want to do because the sin nature fixed and operating in my soul.” It dries them back to watch it, over and over again and they sit there feel so condemned and they’re like “Oh God, help me stop, why can’t I stop.” They can’t stop because the wound is there controlling them, driving them.
Sid: So if the wound was gone all they have to do is stand on a promise of God and it works the way the Bible says it supposed to.
Katie: Exactly, that’s why Paul Paul’s the guy that says “I do the thing that I don’t want to do because of what’s in my soul.” And he’s also the guy that said, “I want to know Him and the power, or the dunamis, of His resurrection.” He was saying look, I’m so aware of what going on in my soul and I have had a revelation that what will get me healed of that thing is the dunamis power that comes through the resurrection, it will cause me to be what dunamis means, excellent of soul. You know Paul prayed for everybody in Ephesians 3:16 “He prayed I pray that you would be strengthened and reinforced in your inner man (I looked it up that word means the soul) He goes by God’s mighty power, which was dunamis. So he was praying for us to be filled in our souls with dunamis because he understood that dunamis gets rid of those scars, it gets rid of those wounds that came from our sin and then…
Sid: Op we’re running out of time Katie, we’ll pick up right here on tomorrow’s broadcast. But Mishpochah this is such vital teaching, I mean I wish everyone of us, me included had this understanding when we became brand new believers. Can you imagine we’re walking around fighting the devil with one arm tied behind our back?
