SID: You see, when you close these emotional doors, doors that might have been open from sin, maybe from before being a believer, maybe even through ancestry, when those doors are closed people are getting physically healed. And I’m just curious, Dr. Jennifer, the people that are getting physically healed, do they actually pray for healing or when they get their freedom, the healing comes with it?
- JEN: What we have seen is as soon people deal with the door that healing manifests automatically in many cases.
SID: You had a life-threatening disease. Tell me about that.
- JEN: I had a heart condition and took several different medications. And so after I met Dennis and he taught me how to deal with doors I had the condition flare up. And it was very frightening because it was life-threatening and so I felt fear in me, which meant that’s an emotion, but I felt fear all around me in the atmosphere. That’s when you know that there’s some demonic presence there. And so my heart flared, heart condition flared up. I received forgiveness. The demonic presence in the room automatically left and dissipated, and my heart went into normal rhythm, and I was physically healed of that condition from that time on, and I was able to stop taking my medication.
SID: How did you take these spiritual concepts, which for a lot of people are hard to articulate verbally, and make it so simple?
- JEN: Well for one thing, I paid attention to how Dennis had me pray and I started saying to him, people don’t know these keys, and he just stayed in his own church pastoring all of the years when I was sitting in church pews. And I said, “You don’t understand. I’ve never heard anybody teach this.”
SID: I’ve never heard this.
- JEN: And so I just went by the way he taught me, and just documented it step by step, because he followed the flow of the Holy Spirit, but we know that the Lord works according to patterns and principles. And so because I needed the small steps, I started writing down the small steps with the idea in my mind I want people to be able to understand this so they can get free, too. And this is, I thought, God is so clever, he put somebody who had the rich spiritual experience that he had trained in the things of the Spirit. He put him together with me and gave me the gift of writing and I was able to start writing, at first cards and pamphlets. And eventually it expanded into books because I want believers to have these tools and the freedom that I experienced.
SID: Okay. Dennis, just briefly, explain dropping down and what that is.
DENNIS: Dropping down, for me, was the minute I closed my eyes I would feel the presence in my gut, and I just basically would tell people to open their heart. But I noticed that a lot of times when I would say open your heart, they had trouble locating. And so I was almost to the point where I told Jennifer, even, to get out of her head. Put your hand on your belly and focus on being God in-dwelling, and open the door of your heart. And once it was like a revelation to her that everything good happened down here and informed this up here. And so I would just say, while you’re dropped down, when peace is ruling Jesus is ruling and that’s how you deepen your relationship. You want to maintain that rule of God and it’s perceptible.
SID: What I found was I can willfully get in touch with my spirit. My spirit isn’t here. My spirit is here and I have found that I can, through practice, I can get right into my spirit immediately. What would you say, Dennis, is the first step to self-deliverance?
DENNIS: The first step to self-deliverance is starting from the spirit. Everyone knows, even forgiveness, I watch people struggle with forgiveness and they say, Matthew 18, but Matthew 18 says, “from the heart”, and I watch people give forgiveness, pray-after-me prayers. But if they want to get deliverance they’ve got to start in the belly. And when they realize that Jesus is the forgiver, he’s the deliverer, that the deliverer wants to rise up, the healer wants to rise up. So the first step is knowing that you start from the inside. When you close the door on the inside then anything that’s influencing from the outside has no ground.
SID: Do you find that most Christians, even mature Christians need to close these doors?
DENNIS: Absolutely. And to be thorough even with closing the door through forgiveness they need to know it goes in three directions. They need to know that there can be a barrier between you and someone else. You need to let that river of forgiveness flow to them. You need to receive forgiveness. The Christians that were set free who basically didn’t have anybody do anything to them, they did it all by themselves with self-hatred, anger, self-judgment, they would receive forgiveness and feel demonic activity lifting. And other times, believe it or not, they need to release the judgment they made against God, like why did God let that happen?
SID: But I’ve been instructed that forgiveness is a process, sometimes even years. What would you say?
DENNIS: That’s absolutely a fallacy.
SID: I would say stronger. It’s a lie.
DENNIS: It’s a lie.
SID: I’ll tell you what, when we come back, how would you like to wake up tomorrow morning without any of the traumas that you went to bed with, without any of those fears? How would you like to walk in peace, God’s peace, seven days a week, 24 hours a day? We’ll be right back.
