Sid: I have on the telephone Kris Vallotoon and I’m speaking to him at his church in Redding, California where he’s the Senior Associate Pastor of Bethel Church. And if you or you know someone that you have seen is having a battle with fear you really want to pay attention this week. And to be candid with you with what will becoming on this earth in the next few years if you are not a master of the spirit, and it is a spirit the spirit of fear, you’re going to have a problem. But I’ve got good news there’s an answer and there’s victory. We found out yesterday broadcast that at age 22 Kris Vallotoon had a nervous breakdown. It was so bad that he shook for 3½ years, he got very little sleep maybe a hour a night. He would sweat all night to the point where his wife had to change the sheets several times an evening. When he went to work he would shake Kris why didn’t you go to a psychiatrist after you moved to the small pace would help it didn’t help. Why didn’t you go a psychiatrist that’s what most people do?
Kris: Well I really believe that if I went to see a psychiatrist they would have put me in a mental hospital you know.
Sid: But maybe you would have got help.
Kris: Well, (Laughing) well Sid have you seen people come out of mental hospitals?
Sid: I have with all of the drugs they give the people I think with all of the drugs make them worse than the mental illness.
Kris: Well that’s what I believe. And when I got to Weaverville and everything slowed down around me man I was moving a 1000 miles an hour inside. So instead of getting better it got worse.
Sid: And the thing is you were a Spirit Filled Christian with a mighty encounter with the Lord. And things are I guess the best way to describe it out of control with fear. And then to compound it you start seeing and hearing things what was that?
Kris: Well I just want to address one issue that you brought up right there because I really feel like this something that the Christian world needs to hear. You know my theology allowed me to be mentally ill but it did not allow me to be demonized. And so Jesus said “You’ll know the truth and the truth will free you.”
Sid: Right.
Kris: My theology did not allow a Christian to be demonized.
Sid: But well that theology then says “If you were then you really weren’t saved.”
Kris: Exactly but I knew that I had an encounter with Jesus and I told you about that earlier I knew that I was saved. I knew that I was right with God yet I was demonized. Is that incredible?
Sid: So you couldn’t even look for answers in the church because your church said “You can’t.”
Kris: Yeah I couldn’t go to church because the church wouldn’t believe that I was demonized. And my theology did not allow me to be set free because it told me that that couldn’t be my problem.
Sid: Tell me what you started seeing.
Kris: Oh man you know when I moved to Weaverville it intensified. I would lay at night I would be laying in my bed at night and I know this sounds crazy I know some people are going to think I’m fully nuts but anyone that’s having this experience will understand that there are people out there that are having this experience I want you to know that this is real. I would come and have demons come in and visit me they would physically lay on my body they would incapacitate me they’d keep me from talking I’d be up at night struggling with them.
Sid: How do you know that you weren’t just and be…you know I have to ask you Kris how did you know that you weren’t just hallucinating?
Kris: Because I was completely awake I never did drugs it was a completely real experience. And you know what my wife would lean over when she saw me struggling in bed she would lean over and put her hand on my chest and say “In the name of Jesus leave” and the thing would get off of my body and leave me.
Sid: Well you sure saw the authority in the name of Jesus demonstrated.
Kris: But you know what Sid it would come right back it might be might be an hour later it might be the next night but they would torment me. They would move pictures on my wall, do weird things make the lights go on I mean this stuff if real. This stuff is not you know it’s not something you just see on horror movies.
Sid: They would actually move pictures and cause the lights to come on?
Kris: Yes.
Sid: So you knew that you were dealing with something. Did you know that you were dealing with demons? What did you think?
Kris: I knew I was dealing with demons but I didn’t know why I couldn’t figure out what did I do to open this door? What did I do to open this door? And I couldn’t and I didn’t want to tell anybody what was going for obvious reasons they would put me in the cuckoo farm. And I couldn’t find anybody who had had experiences like I had.
Sid: And… but what about this shaking for 3½ years certainly people were questioning you at work about this shaking?
Kris: Yeah just thought that I was having anxiety attacks well you’re just having anxiety attacks you need to take tranquilizers. And I’m like I’m not going to take tranquilizers that’s not the answers you know that tranquilizers would slow my body down but I was still mentally tormented.
Sid: Well you said that you did go to a doctor who gave you some tranquilizers and all that did was make you depressed.
Kris: It made me depressed and it didn’t take away the root of my problem. In fact the truth of matter is it slowed my shaking down but it never took my shaking away.
Sid: This sounds like a horrible mess that you’re in where could you go for help?
Kris: I wanted to die I prayed to God for 3½ years to take my life and I didn’t want to kill myself I was concerned about my soul and I didn’t want to live eternally in hell. And I didn’t want to take a chance that suicide would take me to hell. But I prayed every day for the Lord Jesus to take my life.
Sid: Alright did you have any sick thoughts about taking anyone else’s life?
Kris: Sid I would have 40-50-60 times a day I would have visions in my mind of killing my wife, of molesting my children the most…and I’m being mild right now. I don’t have and I don’t mean just a thought I would picture it, I wasn’t trying to picture it I would just have it flash in my mind perverted murderous adulterous the most terrible things you could think of would flash in my mind. And that’s when the anxiety would just come and I would just I’d breakout in sweat I would sock my shirts wet just over and over with anxiety.
Sid: Couldn’t you just… well the way your wife came against the demons in the name of Jesus couldn’t you just when these thoughts were coming some horrible thoughts couldn’t you just say stop in the name of Jesus.
Kris: I would war against them but I wasn’t wining until one night want to know what happened?
Sid: I’d love to know.
Kris: We were living in Weaverville, California actually we were living in Lewiston which is a small community outside of Weaverville. In this community you hardly get radio, which is one reason I’m excited right now. And about 3:00 in the morning I couldn’t sleep I went out and I laid by our stereo and I turned our stereo on to the only radio station that it would get which would be just static. All you could get is just pure static and it was some man on there teaching the Bible and to this day I don’t know who it was. And through the static and I’m laying there with my ear right to the speaker and he said this “God has no given you a spirit of fear but love, power and a sound mind 2nd Timothy 1:7. That’s all I could hear that’s all I could hear but when he said that it was like God was standing in front of me and He said to me “Kris these thoughts your having are not your own. You are not crazy but the person that’s speaking to you is crazy and all you did was take his thoughts and make them your thoughts you agreed with him.”
Sid: They seemed like they were your thoughts.
Kris: Oh yes and how do you fight yourself?
Sid: Well now you know the problem what do you do about it?
Kris: I went to work that day and one the way home I’m driving home at night and I’m thinking “You know what these are not my thoughts I’m not crazy, I’m not crazy. These are not my thoughts” and I got so excited. I started shouting in my car “These are not my thoughts I’m going to be free, I believed the lie!” And all of a sudden a voice came in the car and he said “If you tell anybody about this I will kill you.” Just as clear as you and I are talking Sid “If you tell anybody about this I will kill you” and then a still small voice I pull over on the side of the road I started to shaking again. I pull over on the side of the road and sweats pouring off my head and a still small voice inside of me said this “Kris does the devil hate you?” And I said “Yes.” “Does he want to kill you?” “Yes.” “Why didn’t he kill you when he got saved?” I said “I don’t know.” He said “Because he can’t he’s a liar and all of his power comes through illusion, illusion he has no power over you accept for you give him the authority I gave you by believing in him.”
Sid: In affect if you buy his lie he has power over you.
Kris: Exactly.
Sid: If you don’t he has nothing.
Kris: You serve the one you fear. And the moment at that time boom I was free I had believed a lie. When I got out of that bathtub 3½ years before I had believed that I was going to die and believing his lie opened the door for all kinds of evil to be a part of my life. And when I figured out that it was a lie and the thoughts I was having weren’t my own I was free.
Sid: What you’re telling me is that scripture just that one scripture on the radio freed you up and once you got free God told you what to do about it.
Jack: That’s exactly right. Once I had the truth you know the truth and the truth will free you. Once I had the truth all I had to do was embrace that truth, receive that truth and I was free.
Sid: How many years ago was that?
Jack: Oh my gosh I’m 45 now, 20 years ago.
Sid: And out of curiosity I’m sure the enemy has tried to come at you has he been successful?
Kris: You know when I first got free I would go for 2 or 3 days and I would just be “Wow I’m free.” And the enemy would try to come back in he would just try to pound at me and I would have to…and I would start living in some of the symptoms and I would remind myself “This is a war” you know and in printing it says “The weapons of our warfare are not carnal but they are mighty for the pulling down of strongholds and that’s was we’re taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ.” The Lord began to show me that the war was in our minds and not that it was…
Sid: What did your wife think about this?
Kris: Oh when I got free she was so excited.
Sid: Guess what we’re out of time.
