SID: What did God mean when He said, “This is the end of the world as we know it”?
JOHNNY: He was announcing a new era, communicating-
SID: So it wasn’t a cataclysmic destruction of the world, what you were seeing?
JOHNNY: Not at all. This is a shift upward into glory presence. You know, different people have different names, revival, awakening, but this is something I call it bigger than revival because it includes transformations of cities and nations. This is where we see wholesale regions begin to be touched by the presence of God. And I wrote about it in a book five years ago that I believe by the year 2050, we would have 50 nations essentially operating as sheep nations under the light of the sons of God. Not perfect in any way, but they would be headed in that direction. So I was like, what is going to happen to begin to put us on that path? So I knew it had to be something that shifted society in a major way.
SID: Now, do you believe that we are really close to the end time judgments from the Book of Revelation, the end, that this is it? What do you believe?
JOHNNY: No, I don’t. I’ve done a study of every single generation since the apostle Paul and every single generation, upon there being a challenge, whether it’s a plague, a war, or something, has tried to interpret the final aspects that are in the scripture, the final end times matters, they’ve tried to translate them and fit them into their generation. And it’s been wrong, and it’s been a wrong precepting concept, because Acts 3:21 clearly says Jesus has [been] retained in the heavens. He’s held in the heavens until, there’s an until, until the restoration of all things spoken of by his servants, the prophets.
JOHNNY: Now it doesn’t tell us you have to do some digging, what the prophets talk about. Well, prophet David, because he’s called the prophet, Psalms 2 says, “Ask of me the nations and I will give them to you for inheritance.” Isaiah, the prophet, Isaiah 60, 1 through 3, “Arise, shine, your light has come. The glory of the Lord has risen on you. There’s darkness, deep darkness, but the Lord will arise on you.” It goes on to say, “Nations will walk to the light of the sons of God.”
JOHNNY: The prophet Habakkuk 2:14 begins to speak of a day, says, “The knowledge of the glory of God will fill the earth as the waters cover the sea.” When you begin to put together, even that with Isaiah 60, “you arise, you shine,” you realize He gets no great glory from having to remove us and then bring His glory. His story gets exciting when His glory can be seen on His sons and daughters and His sons and daughters arise and shine. That’s why Jesus continued the theme, “You arise. You are the salt of the earth. You are the light of the world.” From his first message, He is looking for sons and daughters who will co-labor with Him to reveal His kingdom to society.
SID: But this is very different than what most people’s end time theology is. And as a matter of fact, I know people that have said, “Well, Jesus is coming soon. I’m not going to go to college. I’m not going to go into business. I always wanted to be in movies. I’m not going to fool with that. All I’m going to do is live for Jesus,” but they don’t accomplish a whole lot with their life. Well anyway, talk to someone like that.
