Sid: The person you may be hearing in the background is Kevin Turner; he’s weeping he’s President of Strategic World Impact. He works primarily in war zones, disaster areas, or with Christian’s that are being persecuted. I caught up with him at his base just outside of Sudan, Africa. And Kevin has his family there they’re lives have been threatened. And on yesterday’s broadcast he began weeping over how the brokenness that he experiences when he looks at what Jesus did for him it’s not just clichés, it’s not just sound good type words. It’s genuine; and I have to tell you he has been challenging us; me; us to the core of what is really important in life. Most people that see the events going around the world right now recognize that we are in the last of the last days. But whether we are or not you don’t know when your end will come. Don’t want your life to count for eternity; don’t you feel there’s something more than what we have evolved into called 21st century seeker sensitive American Christianity. Kevin if you would continue teaching the way you did on yesterday’s broadcast.
Kevin: Well, and I’m honored by the way; I’m honored to be on your program and I thank you for the freedom that you’ve given me to share my heart as you are opening up. I’ve been crying my eyes out. I lament; not simply what I see in the church in America but what I see in my own heart. But I remember I was preaching at a church in America and I was just pouring out my heart and you know begging the Spirit of God to touch the Bride. And bring her to repentance and so silently the Lord; huh the Lord just whispered to me. And He said this “Kevin you want me to bless your message so you can hold sway over people.” I almost fell to my knees because no one would know that but Jesus. And He revealed the thoughts and the intense of my heart and externally we pray “Oh God save the nations.” And “Oh God build the church and oh, God make sure I get used.” And I meet people all the time that have come to the altar in brokenness and confession and they pray God use me; God use me. And sometimes a year later or months later, or several years later and I’ll meet them. And many of these people come to me and you know what they say?
Sid: What.
Kevin: I feel so used and you can hear in the tone of their voice that they don’t like what’s happened? And I said “Do you know what that means?” That God did what He wanted to do He just didn’t do it in the way that you expected it. So often even in our prayers of “God use me.” What I really mean is “God I want to use You.” I want to use You for my ministry; I want to use You to get a name; I want to use You to raise money; I want to use You to build the church.” And then when we’ve got it wrong; (weeping) and this is what I prayed I said “God if You can get glory by just casting my life down on the rocks to get Your glory.” You know I mean just theologically that Jesus meant it when He said “Come and die; and He said “Come and die” before He ever said “Come and dine.” And so many people are waiting to get into the chow line. But as William Penn the founder of Philadelphia a great Christian man said “No cross, no crown.” And what we want in America is we want to go straight to the upper room but we forget about Calvary. And we filled our churches with organizers instead of agonizers. And we’ve set up business plans instead of prayer meetings; and we say “This is what God will do; and this is how He will do it.” And I believe one of the greatest things that can ever happen in America, and other countries, that the groups of pastors who run the churches would come together in a national confession of pride. And of just absolute worldliness and rend their hearts and not their garments. Because I believe this that judgment starts with the house of God and it starts with the spiritual leaders and authorities.
Sid: Kevin I believe prophetically this year many that are in frontline ministry that are living a lie if they haven’t repented of their sin and gotten right with God will be exposed. And even that is God’s mercy so they won’t end up burning in hell.
Kevin: I believe that that’s absolutely correct. I believe also that God loves America so much that He’s willing to let her be utterly wiped off the map that He might get His glory. He loves America so much that He’s willing to allow every one of our church houses to be burnt to cinder that He might absolutely get a hold of our hearts. You see what I’ve realized in ministry is this God’s not concerned about my happiness He’s concerned about my holiness. I know that I’ve said it before but I’ll say it again there’s an old Puritan Proverb that says “Either the love of God will draw you to His breast or the wrath of God will drag you there.”
Sid: Kevin people have been listening to us all this week and they’ve been soul searching; they’ve been praying; they’ve been thinking “What am I doing with my life? Oh God I want to die to self; I want You to use me; I don’t know if I can do it in the flesh but I want to!” Would you pray for someone whose heart is saying that right now?
Kevin: Yeah, I’d be honored. Lord Jesus I pray right now that you’d rend the heavens and with the finger of You Holy Spirit you would touch our hearts and that You’d start with me; convict me of my worldliness; convict me of my pride; convict me oh Lord of seeking position, fame or power and break me Father. Lord I pray that a divine revelation of the Majesty of Your Son Jesus Christ would be stamped upon our hearts. That you would stamp eternity on our eyeballs and we’d no longer live for ourselves but unto Him who loved us and died for us. Holy Spirit come now and breath upon us. Lord breathe into us fresh life; a renewal, a rebirth. Lord God Almighty that you might get your glory. We lay down our hopes, dreams and ambitions at the altar. And Lord God at the foot of the cross we cry out “Touch us Lord God less we perish.” And Oh God as the old hymn says “Do not pass us by in the matchless name of Christ our King, Amen!”
Sid: Amen. Would you also pray for a supernatural burden for the lost?
Kevin: Lord Jesus I pray right now that the Spirit of Christ the Holy Spirit would come now consume our hearts that we would remember the pit from which we had been lifted from. Lord that we would remember the Rock from which we stand and Father God You’d cause us to stretch out our hand into the sea of despair and pluck those out Lord God. Give us a burden for souls; give us a passion for Your kingdom that Christ might be glorified. And may the Lamb that was slain receive the rewards of this suffering in Jesus Name. Hallelujah!
Sid: Kevin, we’ve made available a teaching you felt God directed you to do we call it “Kevin’s Teaching.” Why do you believe God told you to teach this?
Kevin: Because the church has become infected with a false theology that says “I’m no longer expendable; I’m too important to God to be expendable. And I believe with all my heart that the more usable we are the more expendable we’ll become. And basically what I do through this teaching is debunk the popular myth of “The best ministry is the long ministry.” John the Baptist had 30 years on the backside of the desert for a 3 year ministry. The Lamb of God Himself had 3 ½ years of public ministry. And I’m thinking to myself “Lord Jesus make me a red hot fire burning for You no matter how much time I have.” And if we live our lives on the brink of eternity then we’ll have a broken spirit and a passion for souls that God intends for us.
Sid: Mishpochah, we are making Kevin’s “Teaching” available… if you’re lukewarm; if you know someone lukewarm get this to them; make your life count. Kevin your last thought.
Kevin: I just pray that the Moravian that sold themselves into slavery that we would say the same “May the Lamb of God that was slain receive the rewards of His suffering.”
