Sid: My guest is Apostle Guillermo Maldonado and he has one of the largest if not the largest multicultural church in the United States. He’s been a guest a number of times on Messianic Vision but I just got a hold of his 2 CD series called “A Broken Heart Surrendered to God.” And I want to express to observations number one I sensed… I could hear in his voice something had happened to him between the last time I spoke to him and when I listened to these CD’s. It was like the frequency was a higher love frequency is the best way I can describe it. The information as far as I’m concerned, there are people that are storing up food and by the way I’m not against that if God tells you to do you do that because the thing why are they storing up food? They know hard times are coming but there’s something much more important to store up. And you must store up your intimacy with God. And there is one condition that causes every problem in your life and you’re going to find out about it it’s called heart disease but not the way you think. Guillermo you told me about three months ago you had an encounter with the love of God, we didn’t go into detail I want to hear about that.
Guillermo: Thank you Sid there’s a difference between being filled with the love of God and being baptized with the love of God. At the same time there’s a difference between beginning filled with the Spirit and being baptized in the Holy Spirit. When you’re filled you filled to capacity; when your baptized you’re submerged completely in it. In other words, it’s not a capacity when you your baptized your totally submerged in the love of God. I was praying to the Lord and suddenly I felt like liquid, something liquid was falling on my head and in my back and I turned around and I thought it was rain from my roof. And I said “It was, my roof was not that bad to see this.” And I turned around and I didn’t see anything and I kept feeling that feeling on my back and head. And the Lord said “Son this is My liquid love.” And when He said “The liquid love,” I felt it and I started weeping and crying I don’t know for how long feeling that liquid love. The thing is what makes the difference when you see certain things for example you say “Well, what happened afterwards that’s important because what we want to see is change.” Well, I have seen also how that liquid love changed my perspective. Number 1: I saw the people the way God sees it. I can… I love the unlovable and…
Sid: Now I have to ask you this you’re a pastor of a large church, part of the equipping of being a pastor is to love, but you did this so you could not have been a successful pastor. But what I’m hearing is the dimension is way beyond what you previously had.
Guillermo: Oh yes, that’s what I’m saying I’ve got love but not until this baptism of love and Sid there’s a lot of baptism in scripture. Baptism of fire, baptism of Holy Spirit, baptism of love, baptism of faith. So in the moment the Lord gave me that and let me give it in a specific the moment God gave me that I got close to a man that was totally bound to alcohol, I mean totally bound to alcohol; the moment I approached to him I mean the smelling bad alcohol in his body. And it was like I saw him and I love him; remember when the Bible says “And Jesus was moved with compassion.” And what do you mean moved to compassion? When you see a person a alcoholic and you loved him before and you tried to help him because that’s what you’re there for, but this time it’s like my perspective is “God can love him, God love him, I’m going to pray for him, I’m going to restore him, and I prayed for him God delivered him, God set him free.” And I can tell you cases of sick people the same thing people with cancer, I mean pale and they come to me pray for them and something happened. So what I’m saying is everything Jesus did in the scriptures and the gospels everything Jesus did He did it out of love. In other words, faith works by love and many people have faith but they don’t have the love the root, the foundation of faith is love. When faith is not motivated by love it is contaminated.
Sid: Well I also have noticed when I read the scriptures it said “Jesus had compassion” and then out of that compassion is where the miracles erupted. Are you seeing an increased of the supernatural in your life since you’ve come into this baptism of love?
Guillermo: Yes, I can tell you I can see for example I have been in services where the presence of God fell when that liquid love start falling on people and because it’s not only on me but on the people where that moment. Because when Jesus moved in compassion what He’s saying is that He was moved to do something. In other words, you cannot walk in that kind of love and not do anything for people, it moves you that’s what the Bible said “He was moved in compassion.” In other words when you have that kind of baptism of love you are moved to pray for the sick, you are moved when you see a need on people, you are moved to step out and do things by love and it’s powerful to see the change on the people.
Sid: Was there something that triggered this baptism of love in your life? I’m asking you this because I want it and those that are listening to us want it.
Guillermo: Yeah, I believe Sid that the opposite of… let me put it this way there’s two keywords that will take you into baptism of love. And I want the listeners to listen to this very carefully. Is the word “selfish” and it’s the word “selflessness,” two key words. Selfishness and selflessness; let me put it in the very simple way, selfishness is a person that is full of herself of himself. Selflessness is a person that is empty of herself or empty of himself. What led me or what led me to that baptism every time you die to self is the moment for God to fill you with His love.
Sid: People don’t like that phrase that you just used “Die to self” that cause people to run.
Guillermo: Okay the reason I tell you why Sid, what about when Jesus said “If you want to be my disciple deny yourself pick up your cross and follow me?”
Sid: That does not sound like the 21st century American gospel to me Guillermo.
Guillermo: Okay I understand you know why Sid the hyper-grace message preaches that you don’t have to do anything because Jesus already did it on the cross. And you don’t need anything else you don’t need to pray, you don’t need to die to self. Jesus already died a death for us, He said “It is finished it is done.” What do you mean? That means you don’t have to do anything to receive? Well Jesus already did what He’s supposed to did that was His death. But there is another death of the believer that we need to die, not to earn grace, not to earn favor, not to earn anything because Jesus already did it. The reason we need to die of our self is because the Bible says “I no longer live but Jesus, no longer I, I self, I no longer live but Jesus in me the hope of glory. And what I living in now I live in the faith of the Son of God.” What I’m trying to say is not popular because there are some words like sacrifice, like deny yourself, that dying to self. And the key word Sid answering the question is this “What led me into the baptism of love was surrender.” Jesus is only Lord of your life listen to this if you’re listening to me; Jesus is only Lord of your life in the areas you have surrendered. And let me give you a word for it you died to self. In other words, if you not surrendered your money Jesus cannot be the Lord of your money, if you haven’t surrendered your family, Jesus cannot be the Lord of your family. And so we have to surrender Jesus already paid that death. That kind of death on the cross we cannot pay is already done, but we have to die to our self in order to Jesus to release what He already earned on the cross. Because 2 lives cannot work together, we have to die to our own life. That’s what Jesus say you need to die to your soul, you need to die to your own life; if you want to win My life you need to die to your own. It’s very simple, it’s very powerful and I know that people that are listening to me may be saying right now that “Pastor I’m going through something.” Could it be that God is using that thing that you’re going through to go and to die to something, to surrender to God because cannot intervene in your life in any area until you make a decision to die to self, to surrender. And let me tell you something Sid this is very powerful what I’m going to say, “People are very afraid to surrender.” And I’ll tell you why because you’re afraid to lose control of your life. People are afraid they want to be in control. And when you’re in control and Jesus is not in your control so nothing is going to happen until you trust completely, you rest from the work of the cross and you say “Jesus I die to what I want and what I think and what I feel for You to do Your will in my heart and I want the baptism of love, I want You love to tell me, I want the love fill of Your love.” When you feel and baptized with the fill of the love of God this is what is going to happen selfishness die, what is happen is God I surrender; I give You my marriage, if there is any sickness your going through, if there is any oppression is your mind you need to release it surrender to God and let the baptism. That surrender and die unto self prepares the way to release the baptism of love.
Sid: You Guillermo I told you before we went on the air when I started reading your book and listening to your CD’s I had to think of someone that I got to meet and I was privileged to meet. She had probably the highest miracle ministry of anyone that I have ever known her name was Kathryn Kuhlman. I remember her words she said “I can tell you the exact day hour and minute that Kathryn Kuhlman died.” And it was out of that death and resurrection that God birthed this great miracle ministry.
Guillermo: Wow! I think every man of God has a point of breaking point where you have to surrender and I think that death to self is the continual it’s not one time death. And I think we have to make a decision. Do I have control of that area in my life or I surrender to God? If you surrender to God, God will do what He was supposed to do. Many ministry would be birthed, many healings will be birthed because of your surrender.
Sid: We’re making available your brand new book “Supernatural Transformation” subtitled “Change Your Heart into God’s Heart.” I have to believe Guillermo. it’s me speaking. that this is the most important mentoring that you can give anyone and the most misunderstood or not even mentioned mentoring.
Guillermo: Yeah it’s important to say that because Sid because there’s a lack of continual transformation in the body of Christ right now. And we need a direction how to be transformed from glory to glory. This book will lead you into first have an encounter with the supernatural power and presence of God for you to be transformed and then with this use as a tool for you to be transformed. There’s so many areas why we need to be transformed, there’s so many areas somebody lead us into step by step. I’m a teacher, now a teacher’s an apostle, I like to give the people solution how to do it and I think this book would be tremendous help for those people who are hungry to be discipled and to be changed so many areas. Maybe they are struggling in their family, in their finances and they’re saying “I don’t know how to be changed.” And so remember transformation is not natural it’s supernatural; nothing can change the heart except the power, the presence, the revelation, the blood of Jesus, the work of the cross is what is what changes the heart of men. So this is the moment for you to be changed and transformed. Read this book and your life will be impacted.
Sid: Here are some of the things that are going to happen to you:
- You are going to receive freedom from a heart of unbelief that would be enough but there’s so much more.
- You’re going to learn how to surrender your heart completely to the Lord.
- How to experience transformation in the midst of the presence of God. (That’s what makes the difference)
- How hard heartedness blocks faith.
There’s so much this book and 2 CD’s cover this is probably the most essential mentoring I can possibly put in your hands… When we come back Guillermo I want to discuss about the hardened heart and why people have hardened hearts… Anything you can give above… will be poured into Jewish ministry. Let me give you an example Ukraine, this is a nation that so many horrible things are going onto their population right now we are on 7 nights a week primetime secular TV in the Ukrainian language. And I just found out the station that we happen to pick has just merged with another station and they now have 10 million households added to their network. Do you know what 10 million households say if there’s 3 people in a household? That’s 30 million more people and this by the way covers not just Ukraine it covers people that speak the Ukrainian language in Europe. Well we don’t get any money for that we have to raise money and so when you give extra money for a tool that’s going to change your life you’re pouring it into reaching souls. So few people are reaching Jewish souls, what they’re doing is good humanitarian work but “He who wins souls is wise.” We’ll be right back.
