SID: So Jack Frost goes to a conference on the Father’s love. He comes home and he totally amazes his wife and family. Trisha, tell me what happened to Jack in that conference?
TRISHA: Well at that conference, there was a gentleman there by the name of Jack Winter, who was 5-foot- 6, prayed for Jack Frost who was 6-foot-5, to receive a revelation of the Father’s love. What is that? And so Jack asked him, “What do you mean a revelation of the Father’s love?” So he asked him a question: “Has your earthly father ever blessed you?” And Jack didn’t know. “My earthly father has never spoken a blessing.” And a blessing is simple. You know, it’s just saying words of affirmation. It’s just saying over your child what you would love to see happen in their life. You know, it’s just like a blessing, you know.
SID: Well you know, in Judaism, we do have that blessing.
TRISHA: Right. Exactly.
SID: I had a problem. You know what my problem was? My father blessed me in Hebrew, but I didn’t speak a word of it. So I didn’t know what he would say. But so, he was blessed. When he gets home, what did he repent of to you?
TRISHA: Jack had wounded us so terribly in that same thing, in that drivenness. You know, he repeated in his life with his family the same things that he experienced at home. His mom and dad were alcoholics. Jack became an alcoholic and a drug addict. And out of his pain from his past, he began to wound us, you know. My oldest son, Micah, an amazing young man, but he never could do anything right in Jack’s eyes. So he would, he was always trying make us perform for a place of value in his heart. Well we never could do it right. So we never felt loved and affirmed, and accepted because as soon as we tried to do this right, it never was good enough.
SID: How did you feel?
TRISHA: Well eventually, I gave up. You know, I was ready to say, you know what, I’m done with this marriage. You know, I didn’t grow up in this kind of home. And I really thought that my husband was going to be just like my daddy, you know, loving, kind and affirming. So I was ready to give up. Sid, the atmosphere of our home was so totally different when Jack was not at home than when he was at home. It was so hard when he was home our kids loved it whenever he was gone.
SID: How long did it take when you were suspicious, how long did it take with you to see this is genuine change, and the kids?
TRISHA: Well not long. I was surprised that it didn’t take long, because he came home, and for the next weeks, he could nothing but cry. He was so gentle and he was so kind that it had never been the Jack we knew.
SID: Did you cry much before?
TRISHA: No, never, never. You know, no cry at all unless you know, he might have cried if he got a fishhook in his hand or something like that. But he never cried. And so he cried constantly, and he was always looking at our kids. And you know, just like so humble, you know, so in conflict, in turmoil that his kids, like our oldest son, couldn’t look you in the eye. Well he couldn’t look you in the eye because he was afraid that if he looked his dad in the eye, he was always going to be disdained. You know, he was always going to not feel that place of love.
SID: With people that are watching right now, how does wounding come?
TRISHA: Well I think wounding comes first with, you know, someone speaking a curse over you or not valuing you, or just not affirming you like especially if it’s your children, you know. And then that place of woundedness causes us to begin to think negatively about that person or constantly thinking negatively because we don’t have any good memories with that person. And then that takes you in a place to where the enemy really kind of has access to you. Because if you keep thinking negatively and long enough about someone, then you step into sin and disobedience because you begin to, I hate to say hate, because my kids never hated their dad. But they couldn’t think good thoughts about their dad.
SID: But you know what, and I’m sure you’ve observed this, someone has a parent that’s an alcoholic and they say, “I hate him, I hate what he’s doing. I’ll never be like that.” Whatever they hate, they become.
TRISHA: Yeah, but they judge that person with a bitter root. A bitter root is a negative emotion. See, you can have good strongholds, like you can say—
SID: What is a stronghold?
TRISHA: A stronghold is a fortress of thought that you continually repeat over and over, and over again until it finally becomes your truth, or whatever. Or it’s a negative. It can be a negative emotion to how you view someone. And you build on that, and you build on that. But see, there are good strongholds, too. Like you can have an alcoholic parent and you can say, you know what, I don’t want to become that way because I don’t want to hurt or wound my children. That’s a good stronghold. But a bad stronghold or bitter root is when, “I hate you, you have hurt me, you have wounded me” and you lose all honor, and you can’t respect that person, and so you begin to disobey that person because you can’t live, you know, in their rules and regulations, and it breeds rebellion.
SID: I want you, when we come back from the break, I want you to explain how people could be healed. And you know what’s so amazing? As Trisha explains, it’s not that difficult.
TRISHA: It really isn’t.
SID: We’ll be right back.
TRISHA: Yeah.
