SID: Hello. Sid Roth here with Mike Galiga. And Mike, you’ve had certain points in your life that were called milestones. One milestone occurred when you were watching a documentary about King David. Tell me about that.
MIKE: It was in 2005. I was sitting in my TV room. We have a flat panel and I was just flipping channels, and there was a documentary that was extraordinarily well done about King David. So I was glued to it. I wanted to learn more about him. It was the scene where King David, of course, he had committed adultery, and the prophet came to him and pointed his finger at him and said, “You’re the guy.” Well what he did was, this actor was so good, he got down on his face, on the ground with his arms out and he cried out to God, and he just surrendered. He just let it all go because he had been carrying all this baggage for a long period of time and had committed some heinous things, murder, adultery; all these things. How could it be worse, you know? And so I was watching this guy and he was so good, this actor, it was real. It looked real. And so I was just glued to it. And I said, that is the missing ingredient for me and most people I know. We don’t know how to surrender. We say something like, oh I surrender, but do we? And so I got up off the couch, went in my closet and I was in there for over two hours.
SID: Literally in a closet?
MIKE: Literally. And I did it just like him. I got on my face and I put my arms out and I unloaded the baggage right there in that closet, and I told Him all the things that I wanted and all the things that were wrong, and all the things that I’ve done wrong, and all the things I wish I had done that I didn’t do, and I came out of the closet a different person.
SID: What you did is you repented for your sins. What difference did it make in your business?
MIKE: The business was very quickly different because that spirit of lack that we talked about was removed, because the door, the rights for it to be there had been removed. So the spirit of prosperity was able to function. Now this is just a business principle, Sid. This is like, get rid of the bad stuff and go with the good stuff. A businessman or woman can understand that, and that’s what I did. These things are actually more real than a balance sheet that I can hold in my hand or a corporate board meeting, or an annual shareholders meeting. These things are way more important than that because the invisible, the supernatural controls the natural. You deal with the supernatural, the natural is just fine.
SID: Speaking of the supernatural controlling the natural, wait ‘til you find out about the man that owed you, what was it a half a million dollars.
MIKE: $515,000.
SID: Tell me about him.
MIKE: We’ll call him Bob from Colorado, although that’s not his name and that’s not where he’s from. But it was early on in my business. I had left the corporate world and started my own business, and we concluded a real estate transaction. And for those in real estate know that when you finish you dissolve the LLC, the lending liability corporation, and you make distributions of profits to all the partners, and everybody rides off into the sunset. It’s great. Well it didn’t happen. We finished the deal and we made a lot of money. Now I called Bob in Colorado and said, “Hey Bob, you know, it’s Mike.” “How are you Mike?” “Just fine”, I said, “I was wondering when you were gonna wind up the LLC and make a distribution?” And he goes, “Well we wound up the LLC, but I’m not gonna pay.” And I go, “Oh,” ‘cause I’m an attorney as well, “there must be just misinterpretation in contracting.” “No, I understand the contract. I’m not gonna pay you.” I said, “Oh, you have a cash flow problem.” He goes, “No, I have lots of money.” I didn’t understand.
SID: So why isn’t he going to pay you?
MIKE: Well Bob was, and as far as I know, is a very difficult man. He’s very big. He’s about six-foot-seven. He has a red face. He looks like he’s gonna nuclear and ballistic, and kill everybody within range.
SID: Yeah but you’re an attorney. You could just sue him.
MIKE: That was not people that are involved in lawsuits and know the law or work with a lot of attorneys know that suing somebody and getting sued is the absolutely worse case scenario. It doesn’t work very well.
SID: So you move into the supernatural. What did you do?
MIKE: I had to, Sid. I had no choice. I was the tiny and he was the titan. I just go on my face again and I said, “God, you called me into this business. You did. And I’m not a weirdo. I believe in you and I know you’re real. And so you are gonna have to defend me.” And I’m journaling. And He’s saying, “I will defend you. You just stay clean and you stay with me. I will take care of this.” So I called Bob, and I kind of Chinese water tortured him frankly, and called him many days in a row and finally, he went nuclear. On the last called he goes, “I’ll tell you how much I’m not gonna pay you, Mike. I’m gonna fly–”
SID: Wait. Why did you keep calling him?
MIKE: I felt like I was supposed to. I’m not gonna sue him, but I will call him and remind him of his obligations to me.
SID: What did he say to you after three or four calls?
MIKE: Oh he got madder and madder. I mean, he would just say, “I’m not gonna pay you. Leave me alone. I know I’m supposed to pay you. I’m not going to pay you. Period.” He just didn’t want to.
SID: So the last call, what did he say?
MIKE: He went nuclear. I mean, he just started, you know, like he took the phone out and started screaming at it and saying, “This is how much I’m not gonna pay you.” Can you imagine that? “This is not how much I’m not gonna pay you. I’m gonna fly to Oklahoma City. I’m gonna tell it to yourself, get a room, and we’re gonna through it, and then I’m gonna tell you that, and then I never want to hear from you again!” I said, “Okay, Bob. I’ll get the room. This is when we’ll meet.” We hung up. He shows up in Oklahoma City just like he said.
SID: Now wait a second. This is a pretty big guy, from what you just told me. How big was he?
MIKE: About six-seven. That day he looked about seven-six, let me tell you.
SID: So how could you go there?
MIKE: Well driving to the airport was very difficult, I have to tell you, because, again, I was the tiny and he was the titan. You know, he had the resources. I had nothing. He had the resources. He had the size. You know, he was a big wig in the real estate business and I had just started my own company. But God assured me, this is one of those stretching points, Sid, where, you know, you have to step out. It’s not comfortable. It feels bad, but you know that you have to do it and God is taking you there and He’s defending you. So it was a very difficult drive to the airport. And frankly, I remember parking at the airport and walking into the terminal and it was all I could do was to put one foot in front of the other one to get into the building. And then when I saw him, I thought this is what David felt like when he saw Goliath, you know. And I got a little inspiration actually. I thought David ran towards Goliath. I needed to suck it up here. And so I did. I kind of sucked it up and said hi to him, and he mumbled something to me. And we went into this little room. It was about a 12 by 12 room that I had rented at the airport. And but, remember, his face was beet red. So we go in the door. I shut the door, sit down. Probably 12 seconds has expired. And I’m looking at him and he’s looking above me. He’s looking at the wall in back of my head and this is about 12 seconds between beet red and white as a sheet of paper. He is as white as 10,000 sheets of Xerox paper. And then his shoulders drop. And I thought, he’s having a heart attack. He’s gonna die on my shift. I don’t think this is good. Or he’s having a stroke or both. And I start to talk, and I feel this check. It’s almost like a hand went in front of my mouth. “Mike, don’t say a word. I’m taking care of this.” And so four or five minutes go by; it seems like an eternity. I don’t say a word and he doesn’t either. Then he starts to mumble and he says, “We’ll pay you.” And I thought, did I hear what I think I just heard? And he goes,
“We’ll pay you.” And then about four or five minutes later the color comes back to his face, his shoulders come up and he just looks at me, and for the first time somewhat friend, and he goes, “I think I’ll go back to Colorado.” And I said, “Bob, okay.” Those are the words, the only words I said were, “Bob, okay.” He got up. He left. I watched him. I have never seen him to this day since. And the next day I checked my checking account and there was a $515,000 wire transfer.
SID: Well what did you think this man saw behind Mike? I believe he saw an angel or the Lord. He obviously saw something. Maybe you should do what Mike did. Maybe you should repent of your sins and tell God you’re sorry, not to get something. But you know what? There’s something called favor with God. I want to walk in His favor. If you tell God you’re sorry for your sins and believe the blood of Jesus washes it away and then say, “Jesus, I make you my Lord” and you ask Jesus to come and live inside of you, you’ll be as favored as King David. That’s pretty favored. God forgave King David. He’ll forgive you.
