SID: Carlie, how important was praying in tongues or in a supernatural language to that woman that was healed?
CARLIE: As I was ministering to that lady and she didn’t actually, her heart was so broken, she’d been sick for such a long time and hope deferred will make the heart sick. She was so disappointed about just struggling and not being able to receive. Then, when she came and met me for ministry, she didn’t actually want to tell me what it was even wrong with her. And she said to me, “I’m not going to tell you what’s wrong with me. I just believe the Lord is going to show you.” And so in that moment I’m distant. I just knew that I could only understand that by the power of the Holy Spirit. So I just spent just 30 seconds just praying in the spirit. And as I did that, one of the jobs of the Holy Spirit, as we pray in the spirit, he gives us wisdom and revelation. He reveals to us hidden mysteries, things that we couldn’t otherwise have known.
And as I was listening to the Holy Spirit talking to me, I just heard the word liver. I just said, “I don’t know if this means anything to you, but I just hear the word. I think it’s from the Lord saying the word liver.” And at that moment the woman just kind of broke down crying I thought, oh no, I’ve broken her. I was supposed to be helping and I messed this up. But she was crying because she had liver failure. And in that moment, as we prayed her faith rose on the inside of that woman, just as a result of me starting out by praying in the spirit. But one word of knowledge was all it took to raise that woman’s faith to the point where she could receive and she walked away from that encounter completely healed.
SID: There’s a phrase you use and I like it, Do not give a lie permission to land.
CARLIE: Amen. You know, sometimes we hear things and the world is always speaking to us. We live in a world where we’re constantly bombarded with information. Some of that information is good. Some of that’s just, just lies. It’s not true. And we need to be careful what we allow to stand in our heart, to land in our mind. We cannot stop thoughts coming to us, but we don’t have to give them permission to land. And, when it comes to our experience or even symptoms in our body, they’re not the truth. There is a truth that trumps that. That fact. Amen?
SID: James 4:7, you say it makes you bold as a lion.
CARLIE: Amen. “Submit to God. Resist the enemy, and he’ll flee from us.” You know…”
SID: Say that again slowly.
CARLIE: “Submit to God. Resist the enemy and he’ll flee.”
SID: That’s God’s word.
CARLIE: Right. That’s God’s word. That’s James 4:7. I said, I meet a lot of believers actually that have gotten the submitting to God bit down. They were okay with that. They submitted to God, but they don’t realize when it comes to sickness and disease that we need to resist the devil. We need to stand against him.
SID: That word resist, that’s a strong word.
CARLIE: It is.
SID: It isn’t ignore, it’s resist.
That’s right. And passivity is like giving the enemy permission, consciously passive and hope he’s going to run away from you.
SID: And so many Christians just think, well, God’s going to take care of it. No, God already did 2000 years ago and you enforce it.
CARLIE: Amen.
SID: You resist. Okay, deception is the only weapon that devil’s got.
CARLIE: He is. He’s the accuser of the brethren. He is the father of lies. And there are so many people today that are sick because the devil has deceived them into maybe thinking it’s even from God, that God’s trying to put a sickness on them to teach them something. That’s a lie and the pit of hell. Jesus had a healing ministry. He went around healing the sick, casting out devils, raising the dead. Amen? Everyone that came into contact, with Jesus every single time was healed, but we need to understand that the devil only comes with deception and with lies. But he needs our buy-ins. He needs us to agree with him in order for him to have any power in our lives. And the minute we resist him, we cut off his power cells.
SID: You say faith is like a muscle and we should not despise small beginnings and you illustrate it through the life of David.