Sid: We want everyone everywhere to be able to see what Jesus is doing and then just like an actor on a stage act out what they’ve already seen. And you know what? If you have seen what Jesus is doing, it will operate every time. My guest, Bruce Allen says that everyone can do what the New Testament says we can do. Everyone can do the same works of Jesus. And his greatest feeling of appreciation, his greatest satisfaction is the grace that God has given him to activate people to move in the Supernatural; to see consistently into the invisible world. For instance on Monday’s broadcast you talked about the big angel that you saw and he had a scroll and out of curiosity is that angel still here?
Bruce: He’s still there. They’re more now.
Sid: Oh, what’s going on?
Bruce: It’s interesting you said that, so you’re discerning something. There’s a group of angels in here right now, some of them are bearing what we would call precious gifts, but see in the realm of the spirit the language of vision it has meaning and significance. I see one with a new mantle; I see a pillow with precious stones that speak of wisdom, revelation, understanding, insight. And then I see one with a miter or a sifter. That speaks a release of great authority. So all of that says to me that this ministry and you in particular are coming into a new season of greater authority, greater revelation and insight. A longer reach, a new mantle for effectiveness and new realms that you have never been before.
Sid: Well, that sounds pretty exciting to me, but the thing that is even more exciting to me is you didn’t just one day start seeing angels. You did something which activated your ability to see in the unseen world and you really believe anyone that does what you did and believes like you believe can see in the invisible realm.
Bruce: I know anybody that believes the word can walk in these things.
Sid: Tell me about, because you got such insight in how angels operate. Before we went on the air you were telling me that a suburb of Spokane, Tomtom, Washington you were speaking, I guess it was in a church and you began to see angels.
Bruce: It actually was a retreat center and it was a weeklong school. And on the first night there I was leading off and during the worship I saw thousands of angels coming into this mountain retreat center from all points of the compass. It was interesting; they were greeting each other like they had not seen each other in awhile. It was just, reminded me of my days in the military I can’t explain that. And so I inquired of the Lord, I said Father there is too many for me to discern or ask them each one did Jesus come in the flesh. He said it’s of me. When he said that, I saw this very majestic powerful angel appear. I said, Father who’s that? He said, that’s Michael the arch angel and immediately I thought, oh my we’re going to see warfare. And I just kept worshipping and watching. I mean I’m turning around looking.
Sid: Oh, Michael is the angel of Israel.
Bruce: Yes, the angel of the Jewish people.
Sid: I like Michael.
Bruce: Oh yea, there was a strategy for Israel because we did pray for them, but will get to it. But then I saw a few minutes later I saw Gabriel and again a majestic, powerful angel.
Sid: I think of someone that, of an angel that makes great announcements, with Gabriel.
Bruce: Yea, exactly and I said Father who is that and He said that’s Gabriel and immediately I thought awe there’s going to be proclamation. And so I’m just watching. Nothing happened that night. Well, I found out the next morning a friend of mine was coming, Dr. Flohr to teach on ministering with angels. Now it started making sense. The first night she got up and she began to instruct and she said; Now, I’m going to anoint everybody with oil and Bruce is a prophet who’s going to lay hands on them for their eyes to be opened. The very first person that I laid hands on jerked back in surprise because they started seeing in the spirit realm. And so we went through this. By the end of the week there was a prayer focus, she said we don’t command angels the father does to minister to and for the heirs of salvation. But when you pray in the Spirit or speak the word of God under the unction of the Spirit, that’s God commanding.
Sid: Now, I need to interject something. One of the people I had admired who is now in Heaven was Dr. Kenneth Hagen and he said never pray for visitations from angels.
Bruce: Absolutely.
Sid: So this is just your eyes are open and you see. You’re not praying for angels to come see you.
Bruce: Messiah said in John 1:51, “Here after you shall see the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man” or on the body of Christ. Our passion and our focus must always be the Lord. A natural outflow or by product of that are the angels that wait upon Him and are harkened to His voice.
Sid: Now, when you say “harkened to His voice,” that’s what you began to see explain that; at that Bible school.
Bruce: That’s exactly what I saw. She came with the first prayer focus; I think it had to do with the leaders of this nation. And so, immediately when she said, “Now pray in the Spirit.” I was given a new angelic tongue.
Sid: Not one that you have used previously.
Bruce: Never heard it before.
Sid: A supernatural language.
Bruce: Supernatural, how did I know that? Because immediately there was a cadre or group of angels that responded and came over to where I was. And when I looked down there was what looked like a map in front of me and I understood the language. I began to tell them, okay here is our target, here’s where the enemy has set up abashments. Here, you come in this way, you come in this way and we began to lay out the strategy for them to breach that wall of resistance and overcome.
Sid: So, if I’m understanding you right you’re praying in a language that is not natural language. It’s a supernatural language and you’re giving instructions to these angels to do warfare.
Bruce: Exactly.
Sid: That is so neat that you can see this. I’m wondering if every time we speak in supernatural languages we are giving the ambition, if you will to the angels to carry out what God wants done in our life.
Bruce: That would be a good analogy, because we know that they hearken unto the voice of His word and when He commands, they respond and do. Obviously, none of us has the full council on this but I’ve seen it to many times to just off hand say no that’s not the way it is. It seems to be the norm.
Sid: Now, at that meeting you spoke once in a language you did not, it wasn’t a known language but you understood what you were saying. Did you speak then in different languages?
Bruce: When I told that group, okay now go in their language immediately Dr. Flohr’s knowing what is happening with me said okay that one’s finished, I got a release let’s move to the next prayer focus. She then began to pray for Israel. I got a new language that’s when these angels, another group of angels came over with Michael and we began to go through this; again a strategy laid out. And I don’t remember this one as clearly but I do know that there was a strategy laid out and I did understand it at the time. Now when I said go, she again said okay were done with that one. And that could have been anywhere from five to ten minutes on each prayer focus. For all five prayer focuses I had the same experience.
Sid: What would be the one that you understood the most of the five times you did this as to what was being accomplished?
Bruce: Probably the first one because I believe He was trying to show me what was happening and how this works. So it had to have been the first one.
Sid: Now that you understand, you’ve seen this. I would imagine anyone that sees this can never be the same.
Bruce: No, absolutely not. I know when I pray in the Spirit, especially as I yield my tongue to the Father to pray His purposes released in the earth. That is exactly takes place, I know that.
Sid: Now, out of curiosity do you often know what you’re praying when you pray in supernatural languages?
Bruce: On occasion only, no; only on occasion.
Sid: I happen to believe that as people begin to have their eyes opened to the spirit realm they’re going to be so more effective. Even though it is all by faith, when you see something like that; you can never be the same.
Bruce: No, and it builds your faith. So it’s like a self propelling mechanism, the more you see the greater faith, the greater faith the more you see.
Sid: Now, tell me in your words why you’ve written this brand new book called “Gazing into Glory.” What is your heart motivation?
Bruce: For years I had asked the Lord for a mentor in the prophetic and He always told me no. So built within my spiritual DNA if you will is a passion to help people by answering questions they’ve had and activating within them that which I have had to prod thru and struggle with to come to the point of. So they don’t have to have years of trying to gain an understanding and walk in these things. So my passion is to see people mentored and released to do this work because I want to see Messiah return. And the more people we get out there the more people that know who they are and can walk in this the quicker that will happen.
Sid: And tell me about out bonus CD “Translation by Faith.” When you teach on translation it’s as if the faith level grows to the point where people start getting translated. Did the Lord tell you teach this?
Bruce: The Holy Spirit challenged me in 2000 by asking me a question. Can a man be translated by faith to which I had no paradigm? Of course in the morning I don’t have a paradigm for a whole bunch. So I began to pursue and I finally said Lord, I believe so. He said good; prepare. I said how do I do that? I told you by faith. So as I’ve studied this over the years I’ve realized that according to what the word of God says the works that Jesus does. He said the works that I do not the works that I did. So what is He doing in the earth today? And then He said in 1 John 4:17(b) as He is so are we in this world. And you look at some other passages of scripture you understand, wait a minute the only limitation I have in my Christian experience is what I place upon myself because He already made away for me to walk in that.
Sid: You are getting so expanded in your Spirit, wait until you read the book. Wait until you listen to this CD it called “Gazing into Glory.”
